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The number one topic I am asked to give my opinion about is comic book picks. This includes back issues and new issues. The problem I have with new comic book picks, and the reason I am very hesitant to give them, is selling the comic books for a decent price can be very difficult for collectors.

In a previous post I talked about “making money on the way in.” This can be done in several ways including buying at a discount, smart auction bidding, or a successful speculation on the future value of a book. But any purchase must have the selling process in mind. This includes the timing of the sale and the method of selling (E-bay, convention, store, website, etc.)  If you are purely a reader you don’t need my picks, you buy what you like.  Collectors who ask me for picks telegraph their intentions, they want to sell in the future and make a profit.

If you are a convention dealer or own a store you have an easy way to sell your new comic books at the “going rate.” But if you are a collector this can be a little more difficult. In order to prove this point I did some research on “hot” comics in the current issue of Wizard and Comics Buyer’s Guide. I actually picked these books completely at random. Here is what I found.

First pick: Thor #1

CBG (Apr 2008) says this book is selling for $7 versus a cover price of $2.99. It was difficult to find any price on E-bay for these books since almost all the completed auctions didn’t receive bids. I’m talking $0.99 auctions with $3.50 shipping folks! I did see a couple auctions with both covers (two books) sell for $5.50 plus $3.50 shipping. CGC 9.8 Coipel covers are going for $15.00 plus shipping. $15.00 doesn’t make back the money, time, trouble or grading risk of submitting!

Next Pick

X-men Messiah Complex one-shot Silvestri cover. Wizard March 2008 Value – $5.00

The results from E-bay? One bidder did buy this for $5.00 plus shipping, but another bought it for $2.25 plus $4.00 shipping. Maybe okay for the buyer, but not okay for the seller at $2.25. You could have a copy in CGC 9.6 for under $20 shipped.  There were several 99 cent auctions that did not sell.

How about another? Let’s try Halo: Uprising #1 (Wizard March 2008 Value $8)

I did see a copy sell for 99 cents plus $4 shipping on E-bay, but it was better for the sellers to go with a #1 and #2 bundle. The bundles were selling for around $7.77 + $3.95 shipping. I’ll call it a wash. With the proper packaging you could have made some money on these. Still, a lot of effort for a couple of bucks.

What is the Lesson Here?

  1. If you are going to dabble in new comic books and don’t sell at conventions or have a store, you must have a plan. It is difficult to find an outlet to sell your new comic picks for a profit. You better not pay retail! Order in bulk from someone like mailordercomics.com, they offer up to 75% off new comics.  A 75% discount allows you to sell for cover and still make a profit.
  2. A lot of the price guides, especially for new comics, are hype machines. They’re great to get you to pay the “value” at stores and conventions, but good luck to the collector to ever get that money out of them. Also, within a few months good luck to stores to even get that price (other than maybe once every six months).
  3. Don’t buy into the hype and you must have a sales plan! Plan your escape before you even enter the game.
  4. If you are a reader only, E-bay can be a great place for deals!

Until Next Time,

Buy and Sell Smart!!!

Will Comic Book Values Crash?

There is a discussion that pops up every so often on many comic book collecting forums. That question is will comic book values crash?

There is no arguing that comic book sales are nowhere near their peak in the 1940’s, or even the 1980’s and 1990’s. In the 40’s – 70’s most people read comics, they didn’t collect – at least not for investment. They were entertainment. Those readers now have a lot of disposable income and we have seen comic book values from those decades explode. Most of those books were thrown away so we have low supply + high demand = high prices. But will this continue?

The 1980’s and early 1990’s were driven by extreme speculation and subsequently crashed. Anything marketed as “collectible” usually isn’t and will lose value as soon as the crowd moves on to the next thing.

Comic book sales are trending up, but lets face it, who knows what the future will bring.  The average comic book reader is somewhere in their twenties.  If the high prices of back issue gold, silver and bronze issues are driven by nostalgia there is little hope for today’s comics to be worth much.  I can speak from experience, the things I am nostalgic about from my twenties have nothing to do with comic books.

Let’s address the main question, will the high prices we see in Gold, Silver and Bronze age comics continue?  There is no way we can know, but if I were to hedge my bets, I think some will do well, but others will have a hard time.  Why?  My opinion is based on what I see with my own kids.

Two of my kids are old enough to read comic books but they want nothing to do with them.  They are not interested.  But, and this is a major point, they love the characters!  They like the comic book movies I let them see and they beg to see the movies that are off limits.  They would probably watch comic book heroes on television as much as I would let them.

So here is the point, the medium may change, but the core characters live on!  Comic book movies have obviously had great success in exposing the masses to these characters.  Television cartoons do the same to a younger audience.  We are just starting to see online comics.  Who knows what the future will bring?  If these characters survive, and I think they will, then there will be people who want to collect their earliest appearances.

In the future I think certain books will still be valuable and others, well, not so much.  In the February 14th edition of the subscriber newsletter I discuss what books I think will hold up, and the ones that won’t.

A Common Collector Mistake – Emotional Value

Do comic book collectors know the true value of their books or are they in denial?

The truth is, there is a little of both going around.  The most common value mistake I’ve seen among collectors is to over-value their books!

It only makes sense.  A collector looks at their books as more than dollars and cents, there is an emotional attachment.  In their heads they attach a dollar value to this emotional attachment.  Unfortunately this emotional dollar value doesn’t translate very well into the real world.

But is this all bad?

Not really.  I have books in my collection that carry the same emotional baggage.  We could probably come up with an equation for collector value:

CV = MV + EV

CV = Collector Value
MV = Market Value
EV = Enjoyment/Emotional Value

The big variable here is EV.  There is a dollar amount out their for most of us that will overcome EV.  Let’s be honest and admit that it is different for every book we have in our collections.

The first Mile High book I ever bought:  very high EV, life altering EV, as in if you offer me an amount of money that would make a significant financial change in my life I will sell, short of that, sorry…

The X-men #1 I picked up several years ago in not so great condition:  less EV.  I like it because I have a collection of X-men and I probably need better than current market price, but not that much!

Depending on your life situation EV may actually be negative.  Let me share an example.

A few years back I decided to significantly reduce my collection and sales books.  I was just sick of having the long boxes around (and so was my wife).  I went to two conventions, sold what I could, dealt like a maniac, and in the last hour of the con announced I was selling out.  Fellow convention dealers came in droves.  I could have gotten more out of these books if I wanted to take more time to sell them, but I was through.  I wanted them out of my life.  I sold them just above cost, but below market.

My EV was actually negative!

I tell you what.  I walked out of that con with a smile on my face and one short box tucked under my arm. What a relief!

As a buyer you need to be on the lookout for positive EVs.  I see this all the time at conventions where there are part-time dealer/collectors.  There are books way above market value on their “attention getting wall.”  These books are there to lure you in but the seller has no intention of selling them – they have a high EV!  I don’t even try to negotiate for these books, it’s not worth the effort.  I recommend you don’t waste your time either.

There is a danger to having too high an EV on your books.  The time may come when you have to sell.  At this point your EV could turn negative and you may wish you had taken higher offers in the past.  There is a saying:

“Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered”

If you are selling or are willing to sell, is your EV too high?  Are you willing to just be a pig?  Only you know the reality of your situation.

My advice to collectors out there is this:  always know the market value of your books, not just the collector value.  Keep your “EV” in mind and don’t be blinded by it!

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